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Original summary was: WebTopicCreator is broken in Safari and Firefox

Characters typed into the text box are echoed next to it. This is makes it impossible to use and is a change since 4.0.2. I don't have the ability to test on platforms other than the Mac, so others will have to test it there.

I don't know who introduced the change in the javascript. I presume that it's impossible to write unit tests for javascript errors.

This is not a bug but desired behaviour.


The way it's currently implemented, it appears to be a bug (thus my initial report). I didn't know that the change that led to echoing characters was intentional, or I would have written my bug report differently. I wasn't expecting any behaviour changes in 4.0.3, for what should be obvious reasons.

If fixed up, (i.e, with a label and a bit of docco), it's probably a good enhancement and I wouldn't object to it going into 4.0.3 that way. Whether the enhancement police feel that way remains to be seen.

At any rate, I'm checking in the 4.0.2 version so that Sven can do the build. If Arthur can fix it up in time (and others don't object to adding an enhancement), he should feel free to revert this change and put that in instead.


If you are checking in a change that reopens several old bugs, please re-open the old bugs at the same time.

Reverting the commit done on this item (keeping 2214 et. al. closed).

I agree the echoing of the proposed WikiName is a usability enhancement (of which I am very much in favor), so let's have a quick vote either here or at release meeting if this went under the radar while it was implemented and actually has favor against it.

- I'm happy to learn you found time to test the rc, Meredith, great news! smile

-- SP

It's a useability enhancement if it doesn't appear to be a bug, which it currently does. I doubt many people are used to having every character they type echoed elsewhere in a form with no explanation. As I said, I have no objection to adding this enhancement to 4.0.3 as long as it's made clear what's going on, which it currently is not.

I am confused, however. Is this an enhancement or a bug fix? If both, that's a problem in and of itself.

Hopefully Arthur can fix this quickly, but it shouldn't ship the way it is currently.

Imho you should discard this item and instead re-open the item carrying the functionality that bothers you, so we can bind onto its tail.

-- SP

M, I have asked you on IRC to provide a better UI feedback for the 'echoing'. And with your writing background I expected input for copy, not to have the feature removed altogether.

A little history on the 'feature': there was a bug regarding international characters that did not get converted to wikiwords in the right way. So the bug fix was largely javascript work in twiki.js (support for international characters) and WebTopicCreator (cleaning up code).

But what became clear is that not all characters are supported: not all international characters are capitalized for instance. And there was no way the user who entered the characters would find out if this was handled correctly by TWiki.

Furthermore, the script removes spaces and capitalizes words. Also that was not clear from the initial form.

Taken together it was a small step to provide the user with feedback how TWiki (the javascript that is) was dealing with the user input. I would not consider this a feature.

As an example: type %a word to see what happens with this input.

But feature or bug fix: I understand the 'echoing' is not clear to all. Any suggestions for a caption?


I have added this caption: Topic will be named:


Thanks, AC. Closing this as it is currently a release blocker. ML, please re-open if needed.

-- SP

Summary WebTopicCreator is not intuitive on proposed WikiWord echo
ReportedBy TWiki:Main.MeredithLesly
Codebase ~twiki4, ~develop
SVN Range Sun, 18 Jun 2006 build 10637
AppliesTo Engine

Priority Urgent
CurrentState Closed

Checkins 10688 10694 10696 10697
TargetRelease patch
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Topic revision: r16 - 2006-06-25 - SteffenPoulsen
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