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Item4707: We have some basic usability problems in TMCE wrt Styles.

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We have some basic usability problems in TMCE

The --Styles-- Menu can add 3 styles.

  • NOAUTOLINK - results in what you expect
  • VERBATIM - results in verbatim
  • PROTECTED - a mysterious "style" that is not really a style but a mode of entering TML. But there are no PROTECTED tags saved. This is very odd from a usability point of view

It is not obvious how to remove a style. By experiment I have found that choosing the --Styles-- I get out of - or remove a style.

We would add an extra value called something like "None" or "Plain" or "Normal" just below --Styles-- which just does the same as --Styles--. That would be simple but would really help usability.

-- TWiki:Main/KennethLavrsen - 23 Sep 2007

See Item4626 as well which describes similar issues regarding the drop doen menus

-- TWiki:Main.CarloSchulz - 26 Sep 2007

Please review the current state of doc and code, and feedback if this is still a problem or not.

I hate this sort of non-SMART report, it's so hard to know if it's closed or not.


I think the report was pretty SMART.

I have reviewed the changes. The "Protect on save" is an OK solution. Ie. I do not have a better proposal.

But I do not think documenting bad user interface is a good solution. I would prefer that a "No Style" or "None" is added just below "--Styles--" which does the exaxt same as "--Styles--" .. removing any style. It is better that the user interface tells you what to do instead of trying to explain it in a help document. And it must be dead easy to add the "None".

What does Carlo and Arthur think - being our usability experts?


Priority lowered to normal because

  • "Protected" is OK now
  • The removal of styles work and the usability of this is not urgent and more difficult to implement than I expected
decided at release meeting 08 Oct 2007


Things have moved along since.


Summary We have some basic usability problems in TMCE wrt Styles.
ReportedBy TWiki:Main.KennethLavrsen
Codebase ~twiki4
SVN Range TWiki-4.3.0, Sat, 22 Sep 2007, build 14996
AppliesTo Extension
Component TinyMCEPlugin
Priority Normal
CurrentState No Action Required


TargetRelease n/a

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Topic revision: r6 - 2007-10-25 - KennethLavrsen
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